Sony PSP Defects Reported

I was sooooo tempted to post about those.. but.. I’m a little partisan… and I’m not nice. >:-)

god that’s funny. that’s downright amusing, that video.

but you said “unexpected”? oh some of us expected problems alright.

this shouldn’t make me happy.

but what about the ds? no one makes perfect hardware, and nintendo is no exception. it’s just that everyone KNOWS that the psp will have defects, that they’re reporting them and making videos and stuff… anyone know about ds defects?

Matt,one defect alot of products will have, and it seems to be the only major problem on the DS, are dead pixels on the lcd.

nice to know nintendo makes near-perfect hardware… lol

maybe i’ll buy a ds now.

Sorry but this is why ds and gamecube almost build so you cant destroy them.

Sony fans it the first psp handheld their shoulden’t be that manny things happing out of a box already.

Well, Nintendo has alot of portable experiance, so you should see fewer problems and defects with them. They learn from there past mistakes, like the lack of a light on the GBA. The PSP, I’m sure will have some problems and design faults because its a first genereation portable. Thats why I see no reason to import a PSP because I’m waiting for any major problems to arrise, and possible a new battery for it. Hopefully the US launch will be smooth sailing. Until then, I will just enjoy the Nintendo DS.

wasent thier ploblems with a ps2 during the launch in the states i remember mine wouldent play the dvd type games and about the along sticks for the psp i could live with a d-pad.

Well all in all I think I admire Playstaion for hving the guts to go after the hand held market. Others just shy away.
I think theyve done great with the psp….so many features in succh a small package. we just have to acknowlege their ingenuity. also having a umd. Of course they may be some glitches ith the first few . but they rectify them in the following models. Remember Trial and Error. Practice make perfect. Playstation has a good start Nintendo better watch their backs.

ahahahaha….

You lose money when you don’t perfect a system before selling it on the market. Stupid. You must get out all the glitches FIRST.

Did you know that Sony LOSES money with each psp they sell, even with the shortcuts they have taken they still lose money.

Hilarious

i don’t think that’s true, or else they wouldn’t even have made the psp in the first place…

i have an ipod and even if they sold it for half the price apple still wouldn’t lose money - it costs less than a hundred bucks to make an ipod. i’d say the same for the psp.

Sorry Matt, but you would be wrong there. No Apple doesn’t make 100 dollar iPods. In fact, the iPod 3G cost $400, while the 4th generation cost $300. Why? Because they took out alot of the extras, like docks, remotes, special packaging, etc. I’m almost postive, and would bet, that the PSP cost more than it is selling for. In fact, I would bet that Sony loses around, if not more, than 100 dollars on every PSP sold. Why do they do this? They make it up in game sales. Once a person buys a PSP, after they buy 5 or 6 games, Sony is making a profit on it. It is sort of the reverse of the iTunes-Ipod deal. Apple barely makes any money of iTunes, but when someone buys an iPod, thats where they earn the profit. So no, the PSP did not cost anything under $200 to make. Thanks to the DS, Sony was forced to have a very low price point. Expect similar deals like this, throughout the competition of the handhelds, even if they are “aiming for different markets”.

jet, do more research. i had my ipod replaced by apple and the earphones as well, covered under warranty. the customs values stickers on the packaging speak for themselves - i’ll even email you the picture if you want to - my 3g ipod is rated at 42.15 u.s. and the earphones are 3.57 u.s.

yes, these do not cover the costs to employees and etc, but the profit margins are HUGE for most electronics. when you said 3g and 4g prices, those are RETAIL. ever been to costco? no, they dont offer huge discounts on ipods, but it’s because apple has all the retailers sign contracts to keep price points consistent around the world.

remember that ken whats-his-face said himself he wanted to break even with production costs. he knows that the psp is a different type of system than the ds. a cheap company like sony would NOT price their handheld to lose money, let alone 100 bucks on each one.. lol

think about the ps2. i know a ton of people who mod theirs and purchase pirated games, netting sony zero dollars on probably is almost a third of all their ps2’s sold. if they lost money by selling ps2s at 150, then they would be pretty damn close to declaring bankruptcy. i do know about the game console philosophy of selling games to make the money, but its not as drastic as everyone thinks it is. piracy is extremely likely to come to the psp, just like it did to the entire game boy series (you can purchase fake, cheaper games in HK, some compress like 100 games in one cartridge!) even after all the copyright prevention measures taken. even you said, they make almost no money out of itunes, but they’re selling ipods. obviously they’d have to have a large profit margin for them to do that. according to a not-so-recent issue of time, wall-street market specialists estimated that apple makes over 175 dollars on a single ipod alone!

ken kutaragi (is that his last name?) and company probably made a comprimise between profit and cheapness. plus, just because umd’s only take 2.75 to make, it doesn’t mean that ALL the rest of the money is turned into profit. as game hardware evolves, development of games is increasing at a rapid rate. video games now take millions of dollars to make, because much more time has to be spent on making the most of the graphics engines of each console. you should read http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0PJQ/is_11_1/ai_110307650

thus sony doesn’t make as much money as you think in games ANYMORE. they USED to.

this all sums up the point that they don’t lose money on the psp.

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whoa, my bad, the CEO of sony computer entertainment is Kaz Hirai, not ken kutaragi or whatev…. thats like some artist for sumthin in japan.. rofl

Easy there Matt, how aobut YOU do a little more research? While its not like Apple is only brekaing eevn on iPods, they don’t cost 42 bucks. Want to know how much a hard drive is? Well, a quick search at Froogle, found that the cheapest hard drive from Toshiba, the same one used in the iPod, is listd at $108.15 Hmmmmmm, that sounds a little bit more than what you suggested, and I’m just counting the hard drive. Then we get to move on to the memory buffer, lcd screen, touch controls, special white casing, ear buds, cables, boxes and packages, etc, etc. Wow… I’m sure that cost way more than what you suggested. Oh, I almost forgot, the battery too, which is usually the 2nd most expensive componenent in an electronics device. So, the PSP has a gorgeous LCD screen, much better than those found on even $400 prtable video players. Of course, we have to also have to factor in other things, like microchips, the umd disc reader, memory stick slot, the casing of the unit, controls, built in wi-fi, graphics chips, etc, etc. Do any search in Google for looking at estimates of the PSP price, and most will say $300-$400. So while Sony put a much lower price than expected, they will lose some money initially. But thanks to software sales (It is suppose to be vry cheap to make a UMD) and Sony selling them from $30-$50, expect them to make a profit after each person buys some games. No way does the PSP cost less than $200 to make.

OWNED!!

how you could use a more common sense - apple does NOT buy toshiba hard drives for retail. toshiba and apple signed a deal where toshiba would supply hard drives at lower prices. thats what most companies do, and not send people to computer stores and buy retail.

things in this world cost less to make than you think, jet, and that goes for many other people out there. didn’t you read the line where i said wall street market specialists estimated that apple makes at least 175 off each ipod? i did NOT say that ipods cost 42 dollars to make, its just that the hardware is WORTH 42 bucks. thats just the customs value. research and development teams, people in china, apple employees all have wages, and those are then added, which basically makes ipods about 200 to make. (after some money goes to the reatailer who actually sells it, like Best Buy.) casing and stuff? how much does it take to get a piece of plastic to encase an ipod? look at plastic. its so common today. that’s because it’s cheap to make, among many other factors. the components you mentioned are almost worthless, except for the main processors. controls? how much does 2 grams of plastic cost to make? almost none!

ask anyone who truly knows about pricing - they will tell you the same thing. computer hardware is extremely easy to produce these days because of mass production and common components. accessories cost almost nothing to make.

ever tried applecare or most other warranty services? they’re sooo generous. if you say your earbuds are defective, they’ll simply send you a new pair - little accessories like those are nothing to them - because they already made a ton of money off you.

however, back to the topic. game consoles are a lot closer to the actual price that they’re selling it for, they still are making money off of them, but not a lot. the psp had so much hype it would have probably sold a lot of units anyway at 300-400 dollars. when you did your research, you only searched for near-retail costs, if you only bought one unit of each. that is ridiculous. sony would obviously shop around and sign up deals to get the components for cheap.

as for things like the umd reader, its just a laser with a bunch of metal around it. any md walkman has the same components, just different in build. wal-mart dvd players are selling for like 50 bucks and the same tech is going to go into the psp.

things are worth a lot less than you think they are. don’t think retail, think at least 50 percent less, especially on technology (game consoles are exempted, expect 10-20 percent less). editors, which side do you take?

thats what am talking about matt you tell him!I would say a psp cost 100-125 usd

I think it costs less than $100 to make. Maybe I am wrong but there are usually HUGE markups on products when they finally get to retail. An example, a bad example maybe, but I have a friend who works at Best buy who gets me things from the store at cost. The markups are incredible. I got $99 video editing software for $8, Firewire (retail I think $30) for $1.67, and a firewire port (retail $50) for $3. Along with other stuff, I purchased $180 worth of retail stuff for $33.
That is a pretty amazing markup! So you really can’t tell how much a product costs from its retail price. I bet there is a deal worked out so that Sony gets a lot of items for very cheap.

$100 to make? Nope, sorry, yes, on products that you can make cheaply there might be huge markups, but the PSP is a powerful system, full of new technology. Do you think the conosole systems are cheap too? WEll maybe now they are, but when they were first released, the companies made little to no money on them. They relied on people to buy a couple games first, and then the profits came in.

no, sony is losing a substantial amount of money selling the psp at the price they are. consoles and handhelds nowadays do NOT have significant markups, if at all. moving parts in a console are very expensive. hell, the dvd license PER CONSOLE for ps2 and xbox is $20 each. it doesnt matter if youre some poor hobo or bill gates, the dvd license will cost $20 on each machine you make capable of playing dvd’s. sonys psp is actually costing sony roughly $550-$600 to make. consoles werent made to be profitable, the accessories and games make the console profitable.

point is sony screwed up. this isnt a debate, its the fact sony DID screw up and new to fix it fast. of course theirs no anouncement….sony know they have screwed up and are keeping quite about it!

how much would a psp cost in aus

whoa you dudes get way to carried over in this stuff either buy it or don’t.

i got a psp and all the games for just £5 its such a bargin but i am not telling any1 were i got it from mahahahahahahahaha and it is not a joke

Actually there is a huge mark up, to make something made of silicon(the most abundant semi-metal in the world) it only takes about 20 dollars. For instance when floppy-disc drives first came into play, Steve Jobs made them for about $25.00us but sold them for nearly $200. That is a really big markup. plastic is also cheap to make and the only metal in it is aluminum which is the cheapest, most abundant metal in the world, so all in all Sony makes nearly $100 on every one sold, and with hundreds of thousands of bought I’d say that’s a pretty good profit.

It is not the cost of building the product, it is the cost of development, plus the cost of building.

Both are valid points. Total earnings per unit sold needs to equate R&D, marketing, support, and distribution as well as the cost per goods. Sony may be taking a hit per unit now, but eventually they will come out on top.

Jason hits a home run on that point.

PSP >= DS

It doesn’r cost but a few dollars to ship, because Sony is based in a foreign country, to ship anywhere in the US now without the tariffs it is cheaper than shipping it from inside the US to somewhere else in the US. And for marketing, it doesn’t really matter when you’re a multi-million dollar electronic company that owns various TV stations and plenty of other people which they have direct ties and relationships with, that own huge stations and giant online media sources. The main cost would be R&D which only costs about 100 dollars a week for every person(remember this is a foreign country, which you may disagree with, but that’s almost how much R&D costs here) for a few months. About a hundred PSPs will pay for that, and with the accessories Sony is making great sums of money. And with an American CEO now, you can believe he’ll be trying every way he knows america does to get every penny out of it.

Hey you fucks, just buy a psp and stop you jabberin you nerds

yo i think everyone gets a little carried away here, and u should use obscene language cause alot of young children read theses sites for video game advice.

hello i just wanted to point out that your never suppose to buy anything right when it gets out because thats how products get tested, thats why everything comes with at least a 1 year free warrenty for defects to protect the consumer and the company from lawsuits. So u buy a new product and a few people send them back and cash in on the free warrenty offer and get a new one, and the company knows to make some adjustments on the next shipment (which is also why they make shipments too small to satisfy everyone, remember how hard it was to buy a PS2 when it first came out? and now the PS2 is all upgraded with less bugs and gets better and better.

Hey Joe, how about just buy one now? It was released in Japan a few months ago, some problems were solved, and tada, I have my perfect (Or at least as it should be) PSP. And actually, according to some reports, as Sony upgraded the Ps2 “to make it better” they actually took out some features.

im a girl and i dont no much baout video games…; so how much would it be for me to buy just the PSP in the united states fro my little brother? (not the games, my parents will buy him those)
thankx, write back asap

im a girl and i dont no much baout video games…; so how much would it be for me to buy just the PSP in the united states fro my little brother? (not the games, my parents will buy him those)
thankx, write back asap

opps… sorry

so wwhen you buy the psp does it some with a memory stick or do u need to buy it? some guy who hated the psp says you had to buy a whole bunch of memory sticks and stuff.

Hey Joe,

Yes, It should come with a 32MB memory stick duo. But you will need at least 256MB (I recommend 512MB) to get the best performance and use out of your PSP.